Tuesday, September 27, 2011

How could a Christian justify the Bible saying that the earth is flat?

I'm a fairly new Christian, but I've never considered this before:





The Bible does not specifically claim that "the earth is flat" but it is strongly hinted in several places. It is also rarely hinted at that the earth is round, or a sphere, etc.





So if the Bible is God's word, how could a Christian justify the Bible's claims of our earth being flat, when God created earth?





Surely God should know that the earth is round, and so this should be said in the Bible?|||The Bible states that the earth is SPHERICAL, but the word spherical doesn't exist in the ancient Hebrew language that the Old Testament was written in, so "spherical" is described using terminology that could only have been revealed by God at that time.





I should start by pointing out that in Isaiah 40:22, the Hebrew word for circle is "chug" , and its Strong's translation may be "circle:"





H2329


חוּג


chûg


khoog


From H2328; a circle: - circle, circuit, compassive





Likewise, the Hebrew word used in Isaiah 22:18 may mean circle, the english translators just chose to use "ball", here is Strong's definition of the ambigous Hebrew word used:





H1754


דּוּר


dûr


dure


From H1752; a circle, ball or pile: - ball, turn, round about.








Other answerers have pointed out the poetic use of language regarding "the four corners" of the earth, etc. so I'm not going to address that, but please take a look at Job 26:10.





Here it is in 7 different Bible versions:





Contemporary English Version: Job 26:10 On the surface of the ocean, God has drawn a boundary line between light and darkness.





English Standard version: Job 26:10 He has inscribed a circle on the face of the waters at the boundary between light and darkness.





Good News Bible: Job 26:10 He divided light from darkness by a circle drawn on the face of the sea.





King James Version: Job 26:10 He hath compassed the waters with bounds, until the day and night come to an end.





MODERN King James Version: Job 26:10 He has described a circle on the surface of the waters to the boundary of light with darkness.





Literal Translation of the Holy Bible: Job 26:10 He has described a circle on the surface of the waters to the boundary of light with darkness.





New Revised Standard Version: Job 26:10 He has described a circle on the face of the waters, at the boundary between light and darkness.





Now, dear reader, I'm going to point out several obvious things that a fifth grader should be able to understand...Job is undisputed among scholars to be the oldest book of the Bible. This was written long before Greek mathematicians.





If you take a flashlight and a ball into a darkened room, spin the ball and shine the falshlight on it, can you place the flashlight or ball in such a manner that the SHADOW made by the flashlight is NOT round, or a circle? Can you substitute any other geometric shape for the ball and have this little experiment work? Can you understand that the ball is the earth, the flashlight is the sun, and the shadow is the horizon where "day and night come to an end?"





How much of the earth is water? Answer: about 2/3, so MOST OF THE TIME, the "boundary" where "day and night come to an end" is "ON THE SURFACE of the waters."





Can you see the shadow of the sun AT THE HORIZON (boundary of light and darkness) on the face of the waters from outer space, say, 25,000 miles above the earth?





How else could Job have known this without space travel EXCEPT it was divinely revealed to him?





I have been a fifth grade sunday school teacher, and used this scripture and experiment to show children that the bible says that the earth is spherical without using the word spherical, and they understand it, yet there are college educated people who deny it, or rather, WON'T see this.





None of the anti-christian flat earth websites that I have seen argue with, attempt to refute, or even present Job 26:10. Why not?





Well, gee, whatdyaknow? Science proves the Bible!! Cool, huh?





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|||(Isaiah 40:22-23) . . .There is One who is dwelling above the circle of the earth, the dwellers in which are as grasshoppers, the One who is stretching out the heavens just as a fine gauze, who spreads them out like a tent in which to dwell, 23 the One who is reducing high officials to nothing, who has made the very judges of the earth as a mere unreality.





See the Bible teaches that the earth is round.|||1) How could a Christian justify the Bible saying that the earth is flat?





Considering that the bible says no such thing, I can't imagine how.








2) The Bible does not specifically claim that "the earth is flat" but it is strongly hinted in several places.





Not even implied in passing.








3) It is also rarely hinted at that the earth is round, or a sphere, etc.





The one place where the Earth's shape *is* mentioned, it is said to be round. Of course, that one passage is most likely not referring to the entire planet or to a sphere - but that is really conjecture on my part.








4) So if the Bible is God's word, how could a Christian justify the Bible's claims of our earth being flat, when God created earth?





Simple. It's very easy to justify an apparent problem when in fact nothing remotely resembling that problem exists in reality.








Jim, http://www.BibleChooser.com|||You have been misinformed about what the Bible says. Over 2700 years ago God inspired Isaiah to write this about the earth:


(Isaiah 40:22) There is One who is dwelling above the circle of the earth, the dwellers in which are as grasshoppers, the One who is stretching out the heavens just as a fine gauze, who spreads them out like a tent in which to dwell,


And this was long before explorers like Christopher Colombus helped us see that the earth is indeed round.|||i ahve trouble with this sort of thing to or i use to i use to analyze everything the best thing i did was go to a leader in the church they explained things in a way i could understand. we have to take in mind the bible was translated for hebrew and for example there is something like 10 words in hebrew for our 1 word love so translation is a lil vague :) keep up the walk in God and ask you pastors these sort of Qs they have a lil more advise and training :)|||"Surely God should know that the earth is round, and so this should be said in the Bible?"





Not really, it shouldn't. If it should, then God might as well write EVERYTHING he knows about the world in that book. Even including what shoes I wore yesterday (Converse All Star :P heheh).|||When a biblical claim becomes a threat to the public ignorance, then they have to create all sorts of improbably assumption, tell many lies, and even kill if they had to, just to keep people from refuting and debunking the Christian myth that the bible is the infallible word of God|||Read the book of Job. Then ask yourself if maybe the flat Earth theory is really hinted at. By the way, Job is probably the oldest book of the bible. And the round earth wasn't discovered by secular man until Galileo, I believe.|||It doesn't hint that the earth is flat at all. In fact, in Isaiah, it talks about the earth being round. It's one of the reasons Columbus challenged the flat-earth theory.


Check out Isaiah, chapter 40, specifically, verse 22.|||Actually at one point jesus is up a Mountain with the devil and can see all the nations of the world, which does suggest a flat world. Though the writers of the book are so vague and contradictory it doesn't even matter.|||There's a lot of good stuff in the Bible. However, I honestly don't think it's perfect. I say read the good and don't worry about the unimportant things.





Does this mean it's not from God? Well, creation is from God but it's not perfect; we have messed it up.|||It also says that the 'firmament (of stars) declares the Glory of God."





Do you think the writer actually thought the stars were chatting about how amazing God is and how great is the universe?|||There is not one passage in the Bible indicating that the earth is a sphere. Isaiah 40:22 refers to it as a circle. The Hebrew word translated as "circle" there is chuwg, which means "circle" not "sphere."





The circle of the earth in that passage refers to the far horizon when viewed from a mountain, and which the writers of the Bible thought was the limit of the earth.





There are many passages in the Bible that indicate the earth is flat. Nebuchadnezzar's vision in Dan 4:10-11 clearly indicates the earth is flat, and Dan 2:28 states that the visions of Nebuchadnezzar are from God. If the biblical god says the biblical earth is flat, it must be flat.





The physical aspect of a circle is a disk, so the biblical earth is disk-shaped. Since the biblical earth is flat, it has an underside and under the earth is the abyss, which is referred to several times in the Bible. That is also what is being referred to in Job 26:7 when it says that the earth hangs over nothing. Job 26:7 implies that the earth has an upper side and an underside, which the actual earth does not have. (The original Hebrew word translated as "upon" in that passage in the KJV also means "over.")





The original Flat Earth Society was Bible based, which shows that the idea of a flat earth in the Bible is not just what nonbelievers say.





http://www.lhup.edu/~dsimanek/fe-scidi.h…





The Bible also says that the earth is set upon pillars and is immovable, so, in the biblical view, it can hardly be orbiting the sun. If the earth is set upon pillars, it must be flat and have an underside.





Christian geocentrists who say the earth does not move are out there today.





http://www.geocentricity.com/





Several early Christian writers believed the earth to be flat, including Eusebius, John Chrysostom, Lactantius, Tertullian, Theophilus, and Clement. In the sixth century, Cosmas Indicopleustes wrote a book called Christian Topology in which he used the Bible to prove that the earth is flat. The idea that atheists and evolutionists manufacture a myth that Christians used to think the earth is flat is just another creationist and Christian lie.





And don't forget. Bible believers burned Giordano Bruno at the stake for saying in contradiction to the Bible that the earth moves, and would have done the same to Galileo if he had not recanted.





Psalm 93:1


Psalm 96:10





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The only reason Bible believers say that certain passages are poetic is that is the only way they can explain the contradiction of fact as we know it. But why, if the Bible is the word of god, must it present something contrary to fact and thus mislead people? Moreover, in ancient times, the people who were living then would not have known that these passages were contrary to fact. Since it is they who wrote the passages, why should the Bible be taken as presenting something contrary to what its writers believed?





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@Matthew: "Scientists used to believe that the Earth was flat."





Name one scientist who said that the earth is flat. You are just repeating a creationist lie. The first scientists lived in ancient Greece and they fully understood that the earth is a sphere at the same time the writers of the Bible believed the earth to be flat. Eratosthenes even measured the circumference of the earth fairly accurately well before the end of the Old Testament era.





You creationists need to stop lying.





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For those who say there was no word for sphere in ancient Hebrew, take a look at Isaiah 22:18. The original Hebrew word translated as "ball" there is "duwr." A ball is a sphere. If Isaiah meant "sphere" in Isaiah 40:22, why didn't he use the same word there?





Also, @Sunshine refers to the Douay-Rheims Bible as using "globe" instead of circle in Isaiah 40:22. That is an erroneous usage. That Bible was translated in the 17th century and the translators used globe in that passage to make it conform to the current understanding of the shape of the earth. The New American Bible, the current Catholic Bible, uses the term "the vault of the earth."|||Every single instance that claims this type of thing is written poetically and is meant to make a point not be a definitive description. Eg. Four corners of the earth, etc... Never are such terms used in narrative or historical senses.|||There are verses that imply the earth is round like a circle but that is still not the same as spherical. People may assume that round means spherical, but it doesn't. A circle is still flat, much like believers' arguments.|||well go to a preacher and tell him you have to talk seriously to him.





then tell him there is a mistake in the bible.|||Scientists used to believe that the Earth was flat.


But the Holy Bible said the Earth was round thousands of years ago. Isaiah 40:22.|||Could you please biblically back up what you are saying. I do not know were it says the earth is flat. You are not the first person I have heard this from. Could you please give me bible ref, so I can study it|||well of course the earth is flat, but if you have questions that concern the bible, you should talk to a pastor in your church|||The God Yahweh made intentional mistakes in certain translations such as this one because He knew mankind would think that way for many generations to come. His Word however would mean the same.|||the bits of the bible that we can actually PROVE to be wrong "are only meant to be symbolic"





the rest of it, i.e. the bs thats almost certainly lies, we just cant prove it for certain? yeah - that's fact. literal fact.|||Contrary to popular belief, the bible doesn't say that the earth is flat.|||those hints are merely figure of speeches, and should not be taken literally, you will come to understand when you read the bible more and join study groups|||the earth is a globe|||Being that you are a new Christian I suggest you stop asking these types of questions or you won't be Christian for long. HA!!!!!|||Most of the verses given as 'flat earth' examples are simply poetic language not scientific statements. Even today (in our scientific age) people refer to "sunrise" and "sunset" (even though we know that the sun doesn't go up and down literally) and it would be hard to read a love poem without hearing that someone would go to the "ends of earth" for someone they love.





Matthew 4v8 is a VISION (like a dream) - have you never dreamed that you were flying ? or that your dog was talking to you? Do you write to scientific journals when you woke up? Do you take your dream as a literal revelation as to aerodynamics or animals linguistic abilities? Or do you perhaps use your common sense?!





Revelation 7:1 SYMBOLIC. This verse, which refers to angels standing at the “four corners” of the earth, is symbolically refering to the cardinal directions: north, south, east, and west.





Isaiah 40:22 Refers to God being above the "circle" of the earth. Skeptics automatically assume the word translated here circle (chuwg) conveys the concept of a flat, circular, pancake-like earth. However is must be noted that the Hebrews had no separate word for a three-dimensional circle ie a "sphere" thus the word covered a circle both in its two AND three dimensional sence. Since this is indeed the shape of our planet seen two dimentionally from above - as the context of the verse is - is of course a circle) many translators have rightly rendered the word "sphere" or "globe".





So, to summarise:


SQUARE?


Isaiah 11:12 (poetic language / hebrew ='extremity')


Revelation 7:1 (vision/dream/poetic language/hebrew = 'extremity')





CIRCLE:


Isaiah 40:22 (hebrew "sphere") actual 2 dimentional shape of the earth viewed from 'above'





FLAT?


Job 38:13 - poetic language


Jeremiah 16:19 poetic language


Daniel 4:11 vision/dream


Matthew 4:8 Vision/dream





What the bible DOES say, Isaiah 40: 22 "It is he that sitteth upon THE GLOBE OF THE EARTH, and the inhabitants thereof are as locusts: he that stretcheth out the heavens as nothing, and spreadeth them out as a tent to dwell in." -- Douay-Rheims Bible|||As you say, the Bible does not state that the earth is flat. Thus, your claim that it does [see your title] is disingenuous and little more than a n excuse to vent your disappointment while inviting other Christians to do the same.





If you are, as you say, a Christian, then how do you justify the Bible saying something with which you disagree [apart from it not saying what you say it says]?





I am given to understand that the question conforms to the pattern of a device used by trolls, whatever they are. However, in the likelihood that you do not understand your basic source of information for your Christianity I will treat your question as being a serious inquiry.





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As to what would be and what should not be in the Bible, that decision is out of your hands.





You need to discover what the Bible is, and, equally important, what the Bible is not.





It is a record, admittedly imperfect, in which inspired writers have done their best to detail accounts of their experience with the numinous. Some do this better than others, but because the Bible is not a scientific textbook, nor, properly, an history book, although there is much history recorded, so the criteria that are properly applied to the Bible is not whether it makes definitive statements about the shape of the earth, the nature of wood, stone, or metals, for these are unimportant to the purposes the sacred writings are intended fo fulfill.





The Bible tells the spiritually sensitive that God is the creator of the Universe, and that creation was necessary to fulfill a divine purpose.





Other parts of the book reveal the mind and will of God in regard to the relationship of man to God, man to family, and man to his community.





I do not know which of the several and discrete theories of inspiration to which you subscribe, but if it requires God to be specific about matters that have no impact on an individual's eternal salvation, then a Christian will overlook such shortcomings.





A Christian will use the book for its way pointing faculties, for its ability to inspire devotional exercises, and to provide understanding into the relationship of man to God, the purpose of God in regard to human salvation, and the acts and attitudes that please God.





If you look for God in the Bible you will surely find him. If you look for Galileo's discoveries you will surely be disappointed.





God knows the earth is neither flat nor round, but oblate, and it matters not because it has no bearing on man's search for eternal life.





QUILL|||Many a skeptic claims that the Bible depicts a flat earth. Scriptural references such as Revelation 7:1 are cited, which speaks of “four angels standing at the four corners of the earth.” However, this passage makes reference to the cardinal directions as seen on a compass – i.e. north, south, east and west. Terminology to a similar effect is used today when we speak of the sun rising and setting each day, even though we know that it is in fact the earth which orbits round the sun.





Another passage often referred to is Psalm 75:3, which speaks of God holding the pillars firm. However, the psalms are written in the poetry genre. Rather than referring to literal pillars, this rather is representative of God guaranteeing the earth’s stability. Even when the moral order of the world seems to have crumbled, God will not fully withdraw His sustaining power.





In contrast to the supposed “flat earth” verses, there are numerous Scriptures that clearly indicate otherwise. The earth is described in Job 26:7 as being suspended over empty space, implying a spherical figure. This notion is further entertained in Isaiah 40:21-22, which refers to “the circle of the earth.” This is further supported by Proverbs 8:27 (NKJV) which speaks of God drawing a circle on the face of the deep. From a ‘bird’s-eye-view’ of the ocean, the horizon is seen as a circle. Such an observation indicates that where light terminates, darkness begins, describing the reality of day and night on a spherical earth.





The round earth is further supported by Jesus in Luke 17:31,34: “In that day, he who is on the housetop, and his goods are in the house, let him not come down to take them away. And likewise the one who is in the field, let him not turn back...I tell you, in that night there will be two people in one bed: the one will be taken and the other will be left.” This would seem to indicate the phenomena of day on one side of the globe while darkness abides on the other.





In conclusion, the curvature of the earth is certainly a biblical concept, and there is little or no basis for the charge that the Bible teaches a flat earth. The Scriptures that seem to present a flat earth can all easily be explained when correctly interpreted and understood.

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do u believe jesus died for three days and three nights??????????????????????????|||No one has the slightest physical evidence to support a historical Jesus; no artifacts, dwelling, works of carpentry, or self-written manuscripts. All claims about Jesus derive from writings of other people. There occurs no contemporary Roman record that shows Pontius Pilate executing a man named Jesus. Devastating to historians, there occurs not a single contemporary writing that mentions Jesus. All documents about Jesus got written well after the life of the alleged Jesus from either: unknown authors, people who had never met an earthly Jesus, or from fraudulent, mythical or allegorical writings. Although one can argue that many of these writings come from fraud or interpolations, I will use the information and dates to show that even if these sources did not come from interpolations, they could still not serve as reliable evidence for a historical Jesus, simply because all sources derive from hearsay accounts.





Hearsay means information derived from other people rather than on a witness' own knowledge.





Courts of law do not generally allow hearsay as testimony, and nor does honest modern scholarship. Hearsay provides no proof or good evidence, and therefore, we should dismiss it.





If you do not understand this, imagine yourself confronted with a charge for a crime which you know you did not commit. You feel confident that no one can prove guilt because you know that there exists no evidence whatsoever for the charge against you. Now imagine that you stand present in a court of law that allows hearsay as evidence. When the prosecution presents its case, everyone who takes the stand against you claims that you committed the crime, not as a witness themselves, but solely because other people said so. None of these other people, mind you, ever show up in court, nor can anyone find them.





Hearsay does not work as evidence because we have no way of knowing whether the person lies, or simply bases his or her information on wrongful belief or bias. We know from history about witchcraft trials and kangaroo courts that hearsay provides neither reliable nor fair statements of evidence. We know that mythology can arise out of no good information whatsoever. We live in a world where many people believe in demons, UFOs, ghosts, or monsters, and an innumerable number of fantasies believed as fact taken from nothing but belief and hearsay. It derives from these reasons why hearsay cannot serves as good evidence, and the same reasoning must go against the claims of a historical Jesus or any other historical person.





Authors of ancient history today, of course, can only write from indirect observation in a time far removed from their aim. But a valid historian's own writing gets cited with sources that trace to the subject themselves, or to eyewitnesses and artifacts. For example a historian today who writes about the life of George Washington, of course, can not serve as an eyewitness, but he can provide citations to documents which give personal or eyewitness accounts. None of the historians about Jesus give reliable sources to eyewitnesses, therefore all we have remains as hearsay.





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|||Yes, God abandoned Jesus for three nights and on the third day he rose back from the dead, and God accepted him into his kingdom to sit at his right hand.|||Jesus went to Hell for 3 days and 3 nights for our sins , so we would not have too. What will you do for him?|||You don't continuously die. Maybe you should ask"Do you believe Jesus died and remained dead for three days and nights before he rose from the dead?" But to answer your question yes I do.|||i believe he died for my sins and rose again. i don't know if it was 3 days and 3 nights but when he comes back you can ask him!|||Jesus predicted this event Himself.


Matthew 12;40, For as Jonas was three days and three nights


in the whale's belly; so shall the son of man be three days and


three nights in the heart of the earth.


I Corinthians 13;8a, Love never fails!!!!!|||I believe he died.





Not for me or anyone else.





Out of stupidity.





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Stranger.|||I believe he died for our sins and rose on the third day.|||It say three days, and on the third day he arose.|||Yep....But I can tell you it wasn't from No Friday to No Sunday...the math doesn't add up. From Friday to Sunday is only a 1 day and a half.|||yes.|||Yes %26amp; yes. Happy Sabbath.|||One cannot believe just part of the bible, it is either all the inspired word of God or none of it is. Since Jesus death and resurrection is historical fact, then it has to be true.|||no|||No.|||I believe Jesus died for our sins. If i am correct, Jesus died on Friday evening, and rose Sunday morning. So if you count the days names, Friday, Saturday, and Sunday is was 3 days. But only 2 nights.|||the word says He preached to the dead.|||No. He died only once and remained dead for 3 days and nights.|||Yes. According to the Jewish calendar used in New Testament times, he did.|||Well Jesus did die on the cross,and was in the grave three days and nights, but He was preaching down in the grave at some point and time, also Jewish calendars and the way they begin their time at sundown, could count a little different from our time as we know it today, I`m not sure.|||Yes. Why not?|||yes...do you??????|||This sounds like a Muslim question. they focus only on Jesus saying he would be in the tomb like Jonah was in the whale, but they ignore the several other passages where Jesus said directly that if they kill him, he would rise "on the third day".





And THAT is clearly what happened.|||Yes,Jesus died one the cross and rose again in three days with death defeated in his hands.





The question you should be asking yourself is do you believe that Jesus died for YOU

Christian ?

why do people let themselves completely brain washed?|||you tell me and that is not a complete sentence.|||Well I am christian, and I'm not brain washed, although sometimes I think Some things are weird lol.





And for all the people who are bashing you for your incomplete sentence, it's ok, because I do that sometimes too.





=)|||it starts at a young age when they don't know any better....





then for the rest of their lives, they act like they "know the truth"....only because it's what they've been told, and nothing more. Logic and reality aside.|||I don't find myself with a lack of intelligence or opinions of my own. I, however, can type a complete sentence without grammatical errors. You should try it sometime.|||That is a good question. Why do NON-CHRISTIANS allow themselves to be completely brainwashed??|||Brainwashing actually has the sad result of not being able to complete a typed sentance.|||oh please stop,my side is hurting,you are so funny(rolls eyes)





listen when you learn how to write a sentence correctly then we will talk.|||You assume that Christians are brain washed. False premise, try again.





God bless you.|||Because they have to give trolls like you something to do.|||because most people don't want to use their brains.

Christian?

Hey Christians, read 1 Corinthians 13:1-7. How does that apply to how you answer people on yahoo?





Side note: are you this kind of person (Romans 2:24 %26amp; context)?|||Nice. Charity is indeed the ultimate goal, though I must admit, I don't always acheive it as much as I'd like too.





I appreciate the reminder.|||Why are you ashamed to post the actual scripture??





1 Corinthians 13:1-7 Though I speak with the tongues of men and of angels, and have not charity, I am become as sounding brass, or a tinkling cymbal.





2 And though I have the gift of prophecy, and understand all mysteries, and all knowledge; and though I have all faith, so that I could remove mountains, and have not charity, I am nothing.





3 And though I bestow all my goods to feed the poor, and though I give my body to be burned, and have not charity, it profiteth me nothing.





4 Charity suffereth long, and is kind; charity envieth not; charity vaunteth not itself, is not puffed up,





5 Doth not behave itself unseemly, seeketh not her own, is not easily provoked, thinketh no evil;





6 Rejoiceth not in iniquity, but rejoiceth in the truth;





7 Beareth all things, believeth all things, hopeth all things, endureth all things.





Romans 2:22-24 Thou that sayest a man should not commit adultery, dost thou commit adultery? thou that abhorrest idols, dost thou commit sacrilege?





23 Thou that makest thy boast of the law, through breaking the law dishonourest thou God?





24 For the name of God is blasphemed among the Gentiles through you, as it is written.





That second scripture you referred to is speaking of those who quote the bible to those who sin, they themselves commit the very sin they are speaking against. Place the full scripture out there and not just part of it to twist your incorrect point, and trying to use the bible to help you twist it.





I am here to say to you, that you speak of the word of God which you clearly know nothing about.l|||1 Cor. doesn't apply to how I answer people on yahoo. I give answers based off my own experiences. If I can't relate to the question, I don't answer it. As for Romans 2: 24, everyone at some point in their life has blasphemed God. Even the casual "God ****" uttered when you stub your toe. That's why we are all sinners. We are not perfect.|||Recon - Are you a Christian? If not, maybe you need to seek God's love more and not look at the speck in another's eye when you have a plank in your own.





Recon - Perhaps many of us as believers are just so sick and tired of being bashed on Yahoo Answers. Seeing as how you are only at Level 1 then I assume you are rather new at this Yahoo! Answers thing.. Stick around long enough and you'll soon know what I mean.|||To be honest, I don't understand why people are mad at you for citing these verses. It's a very real problem and most definitely applies to Yahoo Answers.





For me, I can honestly say that 1 Cor 13:1-7 (and other, similarly themed passages) does affect the way I answer people here. On this forum, one frequently encounters people who are very ignorant, prejudiced, or antagonistic. It's always a big temptation to bite back, tell them that they're a stupid jerk who ought to shut up, or something like that. If I do that, though, then what does that say about me? In my other answers, I counsel love, and I preach that as the way to God. What am I then, but a clashing cymbol if I do not love others - even those who hate me? All my pretty words mean nothing unless I put my thoughts into actions. Therefore, I do not bite back and I do not insult or criticize the questioner, but reply with evenness and sincerity.





No, I do not believe I am. It is true that I am not perfect, and sometimes in life I say, think, or do things that are not very Christ-like of me, but I firmly believe that we should 'show we are Christians by our love.' I try hard to do this, and for the most part I think I succeed. At any rate, no one has ever called me intolerant or hypocritical, and I do not think I am a disgrace to my religion.

Christian ...?

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Christian????????????????????

if Jesus Christ was a person, who was Mithra? Who was Krishna?


Who was the first to be baptized, crucified, resurrected,


betrayed and made into a martyr for someone else's redemption?


Old men start wars for young dudes to die in,


madison avenue tellin you what you should be buyin


Religion and science always profess peace


but in the end who created the deadly war machine Society|||you should write an old 60s protest song...|||The only interesting thing about the question is the twenty question marks.|||who gives a sh*t|||I like cats too.

Christian?

Im 13 %26amp; anglian wel i go to church,youth and am quite invoved with it al but i come from a trobled background and i chose to be anglican no one else in my "so called family" are christian, i really find it hard to deal with difficultys in life.i go to a theripist and councilla and r on medication and i go to these classes to "help me" bt becuz i do wrong things like self-harm and im depressed and hav anxity i feel that i can be a christian, like im not good enough because i do things to myself im not really being a true follower.and these "classes" i go to tel me when im feeling worryed or depressed i need to used these mind focus skil they taugh me bt at church they say to pray and talk to god about it,i know i should talk to god bt these class teachers say that their skills wil help me in life to cope bt i know god would help me Im rewally confused how du i go about chosing what to do %26amp; who du i listen to? %26amp; hw du i get back to being a great follower? CONFUSED! HELP please!|||You will know if you just stay silent and quiet before Him. Focus you mind by observing all the negatives and even positives thoughts that runs through your mind without you beckoning or calling for it nor did you originate them.





Just observes those naughty and nasty thoughts and know that they are not your own but from the wicked spirits that have made a home in you.





Don't by upset nor angry . Just observes them, don't will anything but just do nothing but consciously observes them and from the bottom of your heart yearns and call out to The Lord for His help and direction. If you will just stay calm and just observes all these thoughts without anger or resentment; the devil and evil spirits cannot do anything but will in due time leaves you.





It is not by your own strength but by God's Grace and Mercy for the Holy Spirit will shows you the way and give you the strength and enabling to walk in the Light as you true heart desires it.





So you must be sincere and honest with God for God to acts strong and mighty on your behalf.





You can do noting - absolutely nothing without HIM !





You got it ?|||Talk to your pastor... this is the last place you need to look for serious advice, with all the clowns hiding out in here.|||try another religion, obviously this one isnt working|||You need to look deep inside and ask yourself what the true problem is. What makes you want to hurt yourself. Is it your family? Do you feel like no one gives you any attetion? Has someone been touching you? Whatever it is you ask yourself and then you ask the Lord to help you move past it. Have you ever heard that the Lord would never put more on you than you can bare? If you trust in Him and you ask him for his help he well guide you. And then you write down on a piece of paper whatever is bothering you and give it to your parents. So then there are no interruptions and you can get everything out.


Love you honey and God bless